Who is the Best Atheist Debater?

I would like to hear from the Atheist Community on who is a good Atheist Skeptic on Christianity & the Bible?  I want to know…

 

*Update: Here is my Top Ten List of who I would describe as the most convincing atheist/agnostic scholars and debaters.

 

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About M. Rodriguez

When I first received Christ salvation, I made it a priority to read the whole bible and I did. But it was the Bible that made me question my faith. For I found it flawed and lacking. Due to this I launched a personal inquiry/investigation into my faith, and ultimately realized that the Christian God of the Bible was indeed man-made. Now I Blog about those findings and life after Christ.
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25 Responses to Who is the Best Atheist Debater?

  1. Persto says:

    Debater? Or just skeptic? Present-day or throughout history?

    • I would prefer more modern, I really don’t want to deal with archaic language and difficult reads. Even though I am interested and may consider reading some thomas Paine and Frederick Nietzsche. I would rather keep that type of reading/material to a minimum. Cause I am a slow reader.

      Skeptic, debator, informational- doesn’t matter. I rather prefer to stay away from morality arguments and philosophical standpoints. I find this hard to do, cause everyone I go deeper into this stuff (on either side atheist/theist) I start going into philosophical arguments. Which I don’t mind, but I’d rather have stuff on Christianity and the bible. On whether Christianity or the bible is true or inerrant? That is the reason I started the blog.

      • Persto says:

        Ok, using your criteria, here is my list, in no particular order:

        Bart Ehrman, Christopher Hitchens, David Hume, JL Mackie, David Mills, Dan Barker, Mike Davis, Jason Long, Mark Twain, Bertrand Russell, John W. Loftus, Sam Harris, Richard Carrier, John Philip Jenkins, Richard E. Rubenstein, Anthony Buzzard, Jason David Debuhn, Elaine Pagels, Charles Freeman, and Finkelstein and Silberman’s The Bible Unearthed.

        These guys are good starting points. If you want some specific works from them just let me know. FYI, they don’t fit into this category, but Victor Stenger, Dan Dennett, Richard Dawkins, and AC Grayling have works that dispute the existence of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic god.

      • Brenda says:

        Forgot about Richard Carrier. Add him to my list.

  2. Brenda says:

    Have you watched any Bart Ehrman yet?

  3. Brenda says:

    I was having trouble getting my comments to post earlier so I’ll give it another go.

    I put together a list on my website of the main influences during my deconversion:

    http://leftchristianity.com/2012/03/19/my-deconversion-list/

    As far as the Bible itself – Ehrman was the main influence for me although I read his books – I’m not sure what his online stuff is like.

    I wish you had the ability to do more reading as opposed to just onine stuff because I know the book ‘godless’ by Dan Barker goes into issues with the Bible (as well as many other topics.)

  4. Brenda says:

    I’m interested to see Nate’s recommendaitons!

    Here’s a list of biblical contradictions if that helps any:

    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html

    I wish you could get your hands on Dan Barker’s book ‘godless.’ I have it here and I was skimming through it again and I think it would be very helpful.

  5. mrgoodnkinky says:

    Well the ones called the Four Horsemen of Atheists come to mind.
    1. Richard Dawkins
    2. Christopher Hitchens
    3. Sam Harris
    4. Daniel Dennett

  6. IgnorantiaNescia says:

    I must warn anyone, though, that often Richard Carrier’s historical claims are very much out of line with contemporary scholarship. He supports the ahistoricism of Jesus and has resurrected a moderate conflict thesis on science and religion, to name two examples.

  7. Nate says:

    Thanks for the shout out Brenda!

    I would definitely echo the recommendations of Bart Ehrman and John Loftus. Loftus’s book Why I Became an Atheist delivers a very thorough critique of Christianity.

    I know you said you prefer modern authors, but I can’t recommend Thomas Paine enough. You should be able to find The Age of Reason as a pdf download somewhere. Some of the language is a bit difficult, but you shouldn’t have a problem with most of it. And the 2nd part of that book is exactly what you’re looking for: he goes through the Bible book by book and lists all the problems he sees with it. It lands some serious blows — and does so with a sense of humor. :)

    I’d also recommend Farrell Till. He’s a Church of Christ preacher-turned-atheist and spent many years as the editor of The Skeptical Review. His tone can be pretty caustic, but he does a great job of laying out the Bible’s problems. He was a major influence to me when I first began questioning things.

    Like you, my focus was on the accuracy of the Bible. Considering that, Farrell Till and Thomas Paine are the two I’d recommend the most — and you can find their arguments online.

    • Brenda says:

      I remember reading The Age of Reason but you’ve inspired me to go back and read it again (at least parts of it). I do remember that it wasn’t hard to find a free version on the internet.

    • Persto says:

      I always forget–somehow–Thomas Paine. You are not an atheist until you have read The Age of Reason!

      • Brenda says:

        Persto

        I wanted to hit the Like button (about your Age of Reason comment) then remembered I wasn’t on Facebook :D

      • Persto says:

        Haha! Too bad

      • Tim says:

        Thomas Paine’s “The Age of Reason” probably had more impact on my life than any other single book. Before I read that book, I was a devout Christian that was 100% certain the Bible was inspired & absolutely true. Thomas Paine’s book was the first book I’d ever read that made me seriously reconsider my beliefs. Shortly afterwards, I discovered Robert G. Ingersoll. WOW… that’s all I can say! Overall, Ingersoll is first on my list… I’ve probably learned more from Ingersoll than everyone else combined (including Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, & Hitchens). Check him out, and tell everyone you know to check him out. He is probably the greatest advocate for enlightenment the world has ever known.

        P.S. Three of his best lectures are on the life of Thomas Paine. After reading those three lectures, my appreciation for Paine tripled.

        Thomas Paine & Robert G. Ingersoll are probably two of the grandest human beings to live & die thus far during course of Earth’s long history… and most people wouldn’t even recognize their names. THIS MUST CHANGE!

      • Persto says:

        Yeah Tim I couldn’t agree more. Paine and Ingersoll are good stuff, as they say.

        Hitchens, I think, embodied the best traits of both of them.

      • Tim says:

        LINKS:
        ——————Thomas Paine——————
        http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/
        ————-—Robert G. Ingersoll—————
        http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/

      • M. Rodriguez says:

        good sources, I might check them out

      • makagutu says:

        Thomas Paine is a great read. I read Mark Twain’s Letters from the earth and what a beautiful piece of work they are!

  8. Tim says:

    ROBERT G. INGERSOLL is the best of the best… BY FAR!
    http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/

    You will probably end up reading everything he wrote before it’s over, but a good place to start would be — “About the Holy Bible” — “Some Mistakes of Moses” — “Why Am I Agnostic?” — “Orthodoxy” — “The Liberty of Man, Woman, and Child.” Everything Ingersoll wrote is brilliant… so really, you can’t go wrong. Just scroll down the list, pick a topic that interests you, and enjoy! By the way, most of his works weren’t actually books; but rather, they were lectures given to vast audiences throughout the United States during the late 1800′s. Ingersoll was a rock star in his time… people would pay to hear him speak. Everyone please help spread the word about Ingersoll… he is a forgotten treasure. PEACE & ENJOY!

  9. makagutu says:

    I realize you said you don’t want old writings but I found Jean Messlier’s Superstition in all ages quite brilliant.

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