Guns Don’t Kill People, Gods do

This is kind of like my response post to CNN’s Where was God in Aurora by Dan Gilgoff.  And this is in no way to be disrespectful to the families at Aurora.  Our hearts and thoughts go out to the families, loved ones and lost ones in Aurora, Colorado.

But if you are a Bible Believing Christian or Evangelical Fundamentalist you would have to agree if God is in control of everything and knows everything you would have to agree with the above picture.  How do you escape the idea that it was God’s Will for the people of Aurora, CO to die?  After all when the big guy in sky calls, we have to answer.

Is it really that far-fetched of an idea for God to tell a man or design in his grand plan to kill people?  For the Christian to say that it was not God’s Will, might be too presumptions of a thought.  Stephen Prothero in his CNN article narrowed it down to 7 things.

Yet, don’t forget the Christian God is supposedly all-powerful, all-knowing, eternal and infinite.  So he knew from the beginning that James Holmes would go into the movie theater and kill 12 people.  Not 10, not 11, but 12.  Including a six-year-old girl.  Maybe it wasn’t part of God’s Will.  But God knew about from the Beginning and still allowed it to happened.  God could have stopped it, but he didn’t.  An infinite God could have prevented this national tragedy in an infinite number of ways.    But the Judeo-Christian God did not intervene and still allowed for the midnight massacre in Aurora, CO to still happen.  So we must ask ourselves:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

-Greek Philosopher Epicurus

The sad truth for anybody who has read their bible knows that it is part of God’s Will to kill and murder.  In fact, God killed people a lot.  He killed them by flood, by spear, by drowning, by earthquakes, even by great fireballs from heaven.  It was his preferred method of punishment.  In fact, he once killed the whole earth and all the plants & animals with it. You remember that story right!  God loves killing so much he even killed himself once.

By one biblical estimation he has killed nearly 3,000,000 people.

So if we are to sit there and say killing is not of part of God’s Will, well I beg to differ.   The God of the Bible loves to kill.  And kill a lot he did.

 

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About M. Rodriguez

When I first received Christ salvation, I made it a priority to read the whole bible and I did. But it was the Bible that made me question my faith. For I found it flawed and lacking. Due to this I launched a personal inquiry/investigation into my faith, and ultimately realized that the Christian God of the Bible was indeed man-made. Now I Blog about those findings and life after Christ.
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9 Responses to Guns Don’t Kill People, Gods do

  1. sdgveritas says:

    The sad fact of the matter is we brought this on ourselves. It is the result of the fall, the consequences of one man’s sin is that the whole world has been turned over to evil and it it is destined that everyone should die “By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust , and to dust you shall return,” (Gen 3:19, ESV). Its a fact of life. That these people have died is a sad truth of the state of our world, and it is truly nothing unique of history, far worse atrocities have occurred, and do occur every day in our fallen world. Where these 12 who were murdered, and 59 wounded being punished for some specific sin? No, it would be presumptuous to think so. But were they killed because of sin? Yes. Was this an act of a vengeful God? No. God is merciful. Was this the sovereign will of a righteous God who demands justice? Yes. Was this an act of justice on God’s part? Probably not. Justice and Judgement will come in the last days when Christ returns, “not to deal with sin, but to save those who eagerly await his return,” (Hebrews 9:27-28).
    While God is sovereign, and I do believe he allowed this to happen to fulfill whatever purposes he has, namely his Glory, this horrific malevolent act was an act of sinful man.
    “Oh, how abundant is your goodness,
    which you have stored up for those
    who fear you
    and worked for those who take
    refuge in you, in the sight of the children
    of mankind!
    In the cover of your presence you
    hide them
    from the plots of men;
    you store them in your shelter
    from the strife of tongues.
    Blessed be the LORD,
    for he has wondrously shown his
    steadfast love to me
    when I was in a besieged city.
    I said in my alarm, ‘I am cut off from your sight.’
    But you heard the voice of my pleas
    for mercy
    when I cried to you for help….
    Be strong and let your heart take
    courage,
    all you who wait for the LORD,” (Psalm 31:19-22, 24)

  2. I realise that if you have faith that God must always have a higher moral reason to allow evil, you can explain away the problem of evil, sdgveritas. And you are welcome to believe that if you can.

    But let me ask you this: Do you believe there will be any sin in heaven? The traditional doctrine is that there will not, because God will restore humans from their sinful nature. Do you believe there will be free will in heaven? Most Christians believe that there will, because that is how God intended humans to be. He wanted people to choose to follow Him, not automatons.

    So in that case, Christians believe that it is in principle possible to have a world without evil, and also with free will. So we have to believe that God intended all of this evil, even though it need not exist. And you have to square that with a God who is All Good, who is perfect, who has no evil in His nature – who may, according to common theology, be incapable of evil.

  3. You said

    “While God is sovereign, and I do believe he allowed this to happen to fulfill whatever purposes he has, namely his Glory, this horrific malevolent act was an act of sinful man.”

    I do not see how God’s Glory has anything to do with the cowardice murder of innocent movie goers?

    • M. Rodriguez says:

      I think thats the part people really don’t get, how can killing and murder not just be part of his divine plan. But how can this bring glory to his name? It’s almost sickening to think, that God not just enjoys death, killing, and blood. But in the mist of all the blood shed, we give glory for death, murder, and killing….does that make any sense.

      And the second part to why I put up this post, is for the christian who says, God does not kill or does not enjoy killing. Well you/they are wrong. God not only kills alot, but he enjoys killing. He even killed himself.

  4. Isaac says:

    God who even killed himself in order to bring salvation to millions..If he loved killing so much why not kill the millions and save himself?

  5. plasticpatrick says:

    Actually, God has killed almost everyone that has ever lived. The Lord gives and the Lord takes away. Life is his to give and its his to take away. It’s his board game I just play by the rules. There’s no point in bitching about things I can’t change. Once you realize that life and death and pain and joy and love and forgiveness are all part of the plan, these types of arguments become pretty trivial. The whole “How could a loving God create pain/death” argument is pretty vacuous when it comes down to it.

    Pain is a feedback response to let you know there is damage occurring. Death is the end of life.

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